cougar mfd lcd screen quotation

For a very long time now I"ve been looking at options for putting screens behind my MFDs and seen many different solutions which do the job but could be refined and made easier if there were something that was made specifically to fit the TM cougar.

I"ve reached out to a number of manufacturers to address this and requested pricing for a dedicated screen to fit the back of the cougar. I"ve requested the initial specs as follows to give them all a benchmark to start with:

cougar mfd lcd screen quotation

So, my first blog is about my Thrustmaster Cougar MFD (Multi Function Display) with working LCD panels incorporated. If you’re still scratching your head then take a look at this:

Sitting below the centre monitor are my two MFD’s. Each has 20 programmable switches around the outer edge. In the centre of each MFD is an 8 inch LCD panel set at a working resolution of 800×600.

What you see in the picture above is a printed insert that slots into the MFD and can be interchanged with others depending on which game you happen to be using them for. Ordinarily this would be a great addition to your HOTAS (Hands On Throttle And Stick) combination giving you more flexibility in defining a control profile with extra buttons and almost negating the use of a keyboard altogether. But I wanted more than that. Sadly, as it stands Elite doesn’t provide the capacity to screen grab a section of the main screen and reproduce it on an additional screen such as the ship radar panel or even panel 3 which, in game, is the default for deploying fighters / SRV’s from your ship and then giving orders to them.

So the next question you’ve got is how do you know what each button does, right? Well I’ve played using this setup for so long I’ve pretty much remembered what they all do. I did create a couple of static images which I used as desktop backgrounds in the LCD panels to label each switch and that’s something that can easily be done through Photoshop or other similar app. To be honest, if that’s all you want to do with your screens you may as well just use the cardboard inserts that come with the MFDs and save yourself some cash.

First of all I got some 8mm thick ply board and cut out 4 identical pieces measuring 140mm x 185mm. These are the dimensions of the LCD panels that I bought from Cool Components and as you can see, they are pretty much barebone units. Then I got some black paint and painted them.

My biggest headache of the whole project was how to mount the screen / MFD to the base in such a way it provided different viewing angles rather than a fixed angle of say 75 degrees. Then I found the ideal way with these RAM mounts. Be warned, they don’t come with any fixing screws / bolts etc but I went down to my local hardware store and got a bag of M5 20mm bolts and a pack of M5 nuts which are a perfect fit for this kit. In order to work out where to attach the RAM mount you will need to join the ball and socket pieces together and get them as close to a 90 degree angle as you can. Mark a line along the centre of each board as a reference point then place two boards at a 90 degree angle to each other with the screen board standing on its edge on top of the base board.  The section with the ball is going to be attached to your base and the socket section to the screen board so mark where the ball section needs to be attached and then run a straight line across the board intersecting the centre line you’ve already drawn. Measure the distance of this line from the edge of the board and simply copy it onto the second base board to save you messing around again. Once you’re happy drill the holes for the bolts to go through. You’ll need a 5mm wood bit in your drill for this. After you’ve drilled the holes decide which side of the base board is going to be on the desk and then get a 10mm wood bit in your drill and just drill a couple of mm down into the existing holes so that the bolt can then be counter-sunk in the board. The same will need to be done when you drill the holes on the screen board.

Once you’ve got your first RAM mount holes drilled you will need to attach it to the board using the bolts and nuts keeping the socket section attached to the ball section. Again check the positioning of the socket section against the screen board before marking out where the holes need to be drilled for that and measure it off and copy those measurements to what will be your second MFD screen board.

Sticking with the base board for the moment, I drilled 2 holes on the leading (front) edge of the board in order to attach the small PCB that contains the on/off switch and other adjustment switches for the LCD panel. The PCB has pre-drilled holes in it so all you need to do is position it centrally and mark the holes using a pencil. Once you’ve done that get a 3mm drill bit and drill into the board just enough to make a pilot hole for the screws to attach the PCB to it. Once you’ve done that yours should like this:

The next thing you’ll need to do is to attach the second (main) LCD PCB to the back of the SCREEN board. Place the LCD screen against the front of the board and wrap the ribbon cable around the edge to the back of it and work out where the PCB needs to be mounted so that the cable has a straight route to the socket on the PCB. Once you’ve got that figured out (it will be quite tight to the socket joint) mark out the holes on the back of the screen board that you will need to drill as pilot holes for the mounting screws. You will need to detach the socket mount before drilling to ensure that your holes are straight and not angled going into the board.

Having mounted the main PCB on the rear of the screen board it’s now time to re-attach the socket RAM mount to the board and then attach the screen to the board. Whatever you do, don’t get that bit the wrong way round! For this I used some 3m double-sided adhesive tape capable of holding weight up to 20kg and applied it to the back of the LCD panel as shown:

once you’ve got the tape in place, remove the protective layer and attach the screen directly to your screen board making sure that the edges are properly aligned all round. Don’t forget which side your ribbon cable has to go around in order to connect to the PCB though!

So your screen is now attached to the screen board and it’s actually starting to look like it’s coming together! Now you need to attach the MFD to the screen itself. Again, for this purpose I have used double-sided adhesive tape however, because the bezel around the LCD is so thin you will most likely need to cut a strip of tape to the desired length and then cut it in half longitudinally to make sure you don’t end up applying the tape to the actual screen.

In the example above I have used small strips but only because that was all I had left and I couldn’t be bothered to go out and get another roll! It’s up to you whether you want the tape to run the full length of all THREE sides or not. I emphasise THREE sides because if you want to apply the tape directly to the MFD before attaching the MFD to the screen then please remember that the screen is longer than the MFD and you don’t want to be sticking tape on the screen itself! This is what I mean below:

When aligning the MFD with the screen before sticking them together make sure that you align the bottom of the MFD aperture with the edge of the bottom screen bezel. If you align the bottom of the MFD along the bottom edge of the LCD panel your MFD will partially cover the taskbar of Windows when it is operational. Those of you who are eagle-eyed will observe that I have done exactly the wrong thing in the image above and have had to re-mount the MFD accordingly.

So, your screen is attached and your MFD is attached to the screen. Now you need to get the cables correctly attached to the main PCB. In the picture below you will see that you should have 3 cables running out of the back of this device. One is the MFD USB cable, one is the HDMI cable and the last one is the power supply cable for the LCD screen.:

A word of note at this point. Get yourself 2 x 2m long thin high-speed HDMI cables because if you try to use bog-standard “fat” cables this project won’t work. You can see the HDMI cable plugged in on the left hand side of the PCB in the above picture. You can also see that the thickness of it is comparable to a USB cable. You can get them on Amazon and from other retailers. You will also note that in the picture above I have attached 2 adhesive cable tie mounts to the base. Before you apply the cable ties make sure that there is sufficient loose cable to allow the screen to be pivoted to any angle without straining the cables!

You will need additional pieces of hardware to run these devices. Currently, I have 2 x 7 port USB 3.o hubs with 2 separate charging ports built in made by TP Link. The reasons for this are; firstly, I run a lot of USB dependent devices and second because I’ve tried to run both Cougar MFD  devices off the same hub and it didn’t like it. Third because (and I should have mentioned this earlier) you will need to get a USB – barrel power cable to power the LCD screen. If you order them from the link at the beginning of this blog they do not provide these cables with the screen so you will need to order them specifically. You can choose the length to suit your needs. You can then power the screens through your USB hub but I must emphasise that they must be dedicated USB power sockets and not just USB 3.0 sockets because they provide a different electrical output that won’t be enough to power the screens.

In addition to the 2 USB 3.0 hubs you will also need 2 USB 3.0 to HDMI display adapters. These are relatively inexpensive and can be found online. Again, as with the MFDs, the display adapters seem to get agitated if they’re sharing the same USB hub so it’s worth plugging each into a different hub. In short, my left hand MFD / LCD unit plugs into one hub and the right hand into the other.

One last thing! You will need to put some rubber feet on the base of these units – especially if you have a white desk like me and you don’t want them sliding around when you press the buttons on the MFD. A nice easy workaround for this are plumbers rubber washers attached with glue or double-sided adhesive tape to the bottom of the base board as below:

I’ve enjoyed using mine so far. Like I said, the MFDs are programmable using software provided by Thrustmaster so you can set up macros and all sorts of things and what’s even better, Elite Dangerous will automatically recognise them as input devices in the controller options so you shouldn’t get too stressed setting them up! If you have any questions then feel free to ask in the comments section.

cougar mfd lcd screen quotation

So, my first blog is about my Thrustmaster Cougar MFD (Multi Function Display) with working LCD panels incorporated. If you’re still scratching your head then take a look at this:

Sitting below the centre monitor are my two MFD’s. Each has 20 programmable switches around the outer edge. In the centre of each MFD is an 8 inch LCD panel set at a working resolution of 800×600.

What you see in the picture above is a printed insert that slots into the MFD and can be interchanged with others depending on which game you happen to be using them for. Ordinarily this would be a great addition to your HOTAS (Hands On Throttle And Stick) combination giving you more flexibility in defining a control profile with extra buttons and almost negating the use of a keyboard altogether. But I wanted more than that. Sadly, as it stands Elite doesn’t provide the capacity to screen grab a section of the main screen and reproduce it on an additional screen such as the ship radar panel or even panel 3 which, in game, is the default for deploying fighters / SRV’s from your ship and then giving orders to them.

So the next question you’ve got is how do you know what each button does, right? Well I’ve played using this setup for so long I’ve pretty much remembered what they all do. I did create a couple of static images which I used as desktop backgrounds in the LCD panels to label each switch and that’s something that can easily be done through Photoshop or other similar app. To be honest, if that’s all you want to do with your screens you may as well just use the cardboard inserts that come with the MFDs and save yourself some cash.

First of all I got some 8mm thick ply board and cut out 4 identical pieces measuring 140mm x 185mm. These are the dimensions of the LCD panels that I bought from Cool Components and as you can see, they are pretty much barebone units. Then I got some black paint and painted them.

My biggest headache of the whole project was how to mount the screen / MFD to the base in such a way it provided different viewing angles rather than a fixed angle of say 75 degrees. Then I found the ideal way with these RAM mounts. Be warned, they don’t come with any fixing screws / bolts etc but I went down to my local hardware store and got a bag of M5 20mm bolts and a pack of M5 nuts which are a perfect fit for this kit. In order to work out where to attach the RAM mount you will need to join the ball and socket pieces together and get them as close to a 90 degree angle as you can. Mark a line along the centre of each board as a reference point then place two boards at a 90 degree angle to each other with the screen board standing on its edge on top of the base board.  The section with the ball is going to be attached to your base and the socket section to the screen board so mark where the ball section needs to be attached and then run a straight line across the board intersecting the centre line you’ve already drawn. Measure the distance of this line from the edge of the board and simply copy it onto the second base board to save you messing around again. Once you’re happy drill the holes for the bolts to go through. You’ll need a 5mm wood bit in your drill for this. After you’ve drilled the holes decide which side of the base board is going to be on the desk and then get a 10mm wood bit in your drill and just drill a couple of mm down into the existing holes so that the bolt can then be counter-sunk in the board. The same will need to be done when you drill the holes on the screen board.

Once you’ve got your first RAM mount holes drilled you will need to attach it to the board using the bolts and nuts keeping the socket section attached to the ball section. Again check the positioning of the socket section against the screen board before marking out where the holes need to be drilled for that and measure it off and copy those measurements to what will be your second MFD screen board.

Sticking with the base board for the moment, I drilled 2 holes on the leading (front) edge of the board in order to attach the small PCB that contains the on/off switch and other adjustment switches for the LCD panel. The PCB has pre-drilled holes in it so all you need to do is position it centrally and mark the holes using a pencil. Once you’ve done that get a 3mm drill bit and drill into the board just enough to make a pilot hole for the screws to attach the PCB to it. Once you’ve done that yours should like this:

The next thing you’ll need to do is to attach the second (main) LCD PCB to the back of the SCREEN board. Place the LCD screen against the front of the board and wrap the ribbon cable around the edge to the back of it and work out where the PCB needs to be mounted so that the cable has a straight route to the socket on the PCB. Once you’ve got that figured out (it will be quite tight to the socket joint) mark out the holes on the back of the screen board that you will need to drill as pilot holes for the mounting screws. You will need to detach the socket mount before drilling to ensure that your holes are straight and not angled going into the board.

Having mounted the main PCB on the rear of the screen board it’s now time to re-attach the socket RAM mount to the board and then attach the screen to the board. Whatever you do, don’t get that bit the wrong way round! For this I used some 3m double-sided adhesive tape capable of holding weight up to 20kg and applied it to the back of the LCD panel as shown:

once you’ve got the tape in place, remove the protective layer and attach the screen directly to your screen board making sure that the edges are properly aligned all round. Don’t forget which side your ribbon cable has to go around in order to connect to the PCB though!

So your screen is now attached to the screen board and it’s actually starting to look like it’s coming together! Now you need to attach the MFD to the screen itself. Again, for this purpose I have used double-sided adhesive tape however, because the bezel around the LCD is so thin you will most likely need to cut a strip of tape to the desired length and then cut it in half longitudinally to make sure you don’t end up applying the tape to the actual screen.

In the example above I have used small strips but only because that was all I had left and I couldn’t be bothered to go out and get another roll! It’s up to you whether you want the tape to run the full length of all THREE sides or not. I emphasise THREE sides because if you want to apply the tape directly to the MFD before attaching the MFD to the screen then please remember that the screen is longer than the MFD and you don’t want to be sticking tape on the screen itself! This is what I mean below:

When aligning the MFD with the screen before sticking them together make sure that you align the bottom of the MFD aperture with the edge of the bottom screen bezel. If you align the bottom of the MFD along the bottom edge of the LCD panel your MFD will partially cover the taskbar of Windows when it is operational. Those of you who are eagle-eyed will observe that I have done exactly the wrong thing in the image above and have had to re-mount the MFD accordingly.

So, your screen is attached and your MFD is attached to the screen. Now you need to get the cables correctly attached to the main PCB. In the picture below you will see that you should have 3 cables running out of the back of this device. One is the MFD USB cable, one is the HDMI cable and the last one is the power supply cable for the LCD screen.:

A word of note at this point. Get yourself 2 x 2m long thin high-speed HDMI cables because if you try to use bog-standard “fat” cables this project won’t work. You can see the HDMI cable plugged in on the left hand side of the PCB in the above picture. You can also see that the thickness of it is comparable to a USB cable. You can get them on Amazon and from other retailers. You will also note that in the picture above I have attached 2 adhesive cable tie mounts to the base. Before you apply the cable ties make sure that there is sufficient loose cable to allow the screen to be pivoted to any angle without straining the cables!

You will need additional pieces of hardware to run these devices. Currently, I have 2 x 7 port USB 3.o hubs with 2 separate charging ports built in made by TP Link. The reasons for this are; firstly, I run a lot of USB dependent devices and second because I’ve tried to run both Cougar MFD  devices off the same hub and it didn’t like it. Third because (and I should have mentioned this earlier) you will need to get a USB – barrel power cable to power the LCD screen. If you order them from the link at the beginning of this blog they do not provide these cables with the screen so you will need to order them specifically. You can choose the length to suit your needs. You can then power the screens through your USB hub but I must emphasise that they must be dedicated USB power sockets and not just USB 3.0 sockets because they provide a different electrical output that won’t be enough to power the screens.

In addition to the 2 USB 3.0 hubs you will also need 2 USB 3.0 to HDMI display adapters. These are relatively inexpensive and can be found online. Again, as with the MFDs, the display adapters seem to get agitated if they’re sharing the same USB hub so it’s worth plugging each into a different hub. In short, my left hand MFD / LCD unit plugs into one hub and the right hand into the other.

One last thing! You will need to put some rubber feet on the base of these units – especially if you have a white desk like me and you don’t want them sliding around when you press the buttons on the MFD. A nice easy workaround for this are plumbers rubber washers attached with glue or double-sided adhesive tape to the bottom of the base board as below:

I’ve enjoyed using mine so far. Like I said, the MFDs are programmable using software provided by Thrustmaster so you can set up macros and all sorts of things and what’s even better, Elite Dangerous will automatically recognise them as input devices in the controller options so you shouldn’t get too stressed setting them up! If you have any questions then feel free to ask in the comments section.

cougar mfd lcd screen quotation

Want to seriously enhance your combat flight sim immersion with real displays for your Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs BUT not interested in making your own or waiting for Cubesim stock?  Comes with 12v power supply( NORTH AMERICA ONLY!), each, as well as all mounting hardware, including optional tabs for using the base table mount that comes with the Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs!

These screens are compatible withAssembly and setup instructions included via email for DCS and Falcon 4 BMS flight sims.This product is 3D printed and some cosmetic artifacts are to be expected from the additive manufacturing process.

cougar mfd lcd screen quotation

Abouty ten years ago I was sitting in my Obutto Ozone cockpit, with three cheap 24 inch LCD monitors and a Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS. DCS A-10C Warthog (not DCS World) was my game of choice, and VR didn"t exist.

The Ozone Obutto Cockpit setup I started with. Three 24 inch BenQ LCD monitors, a HOTAS Warthog, and the two panels i had purchased from Glider_UKon the ED Forums.

The next thing I wanted to add was a main instrument panel. I had been reading on the forums about exporting the gauges to a second monitor, so I bought a cheap Acer 19 inch LCD and bolted it onto the Obutto with the cheapest eBay VESA wall mount.

This is what Helios does- it exports the data from DCS and displays them on gauges on a seperate monitor. The same program is being used today on the monitor behind my Main Instument Panel. If you had a touch screen monitor, you could even use it to display and push all the buttons in the cockpit!

To make my first panels, I purchased 3mm thick plastic sheet from a hardware store in Australia (Bunnings). They still sell it today, its about 50 bucks for a large 1200mm sheet and used for pool fencing/screening etc, and comes in white or clear. Be aware that it is PVC and is not able to be laser cut/engraved.

cougar mfd lcd screen quotation

Imo kinda overpriced, since 3D print service is quite convenient now days, and MMjoy board + bottons are everywhere on ebay and aliexpress. you are already preparing LCD+driver board to fit it. why noe make your own MFD with any size of LCD dev kit you can get with fragment of that price.

Or like most of people. use another desktop monitor mounted below the desk, glue or hang the MFD frame on it. adjust DCS viewpoint so it fit in the frame. get all gauges and MFD at the same screenspace.

cougar mfd lcd screen quotation

2 Plexiglas windows per MFD to insert one of the 3 pre-printed cardboard layouts with presets for "Microsoft Flight Simulator X" (each cardboard layout corresponds to one of your choice of 3 presets: Generic / Light Aviation / Airliner).

cougar mfd lcd screen quotation

Backlighting for buttons with adjustable intensity (via the software or manually). 20 buttons + 4 switches per MFD means 48 programmable controls in total! 2 programmable LEDs per MFD, to identify the MFD during programming.

Multi-position, weighted, non-slip and detachable base. 2 Plexiglas windows per MFD to insert one of the 3 pre-printed cardboard layouts with presets for Microsoft Flight Simulator X (each cardboard layout corresponds to one of your choice of 3 presets: Generic / Light Aviation / Airliner).