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If you want to set up a monitor for old mac use, only, it is a good idea to make a cable with the appropriate connector and hard wired sense pins, as additional adaptors tend to distort the analogue video signal slightly. It is also possible to make the mac video card ignore any sense pin settings and to choose from any resolution the video card is capable of. To make this, use some control panel like "Activate all resolutions". In case you did so, consider to make a sense pin wiring for a basic resolution of 640 x 480 at 66.7 Hz to support almost any mac w/o specific software settings.

Building on the success of the Mac IIcx, the IIci offers 56% more power in the same compact case. A new feature was integrated video. The big advantage: Users no longer needed to buy a separate video card. The big disadvantage: The built-in video uses system memory (this is sometimes called “vampire video”).

Built-in video replaces the Macintosh II High Resolution Video Card (25 MHz motherboard video vs. a 10 MHz NuBus connection) and supports 8-bit color on a 640 x 480 screen as well as 4-bits on a 640 x 870 Portrait Display. Depending on bit depth, this uses between 32 KB and 320 KB of system memory. Also, Byte reports (Oct. 1989) that because the CPU and video share the same memory, the CPU is shut out of accessing RAM during video refresh, reducing performance by up to 8%.

Our own tests on a IIci show that although CPU performance does increase slightly when using a NuBus video card, video performance with an unaccelerated video card is about half as fast as the built-in video. Unless you need to support a larger screen or have an accelerated video card, overall performance may be worse with a video card than with internal video.

The Mac II, IIx, and IIcx all run a 16 MHz CPU on a 16 MHz motherboard with a separate 10 MHz bus for NuBus cards. Byte mentions (Oct. 1989) that the IIci runs its CPU and RAM at 25 MHz, NuBus at 10 MHz, I/O subsystems with a third oscillator, and onboard video with a fourth oscillator. By decoupling various subsystems this way, it was easier for Apple to boost the CPU and RAM speed without redesigning every part of the motherboard.

The IIci was the first Mac to support the 68030’s burst access mode, which “allows the CPU to read 16 bytes of data at a time in about half the clock cycles. This results in [a] . . . 10 percent improvement in performance.” (Byte, Oct. 1989, p. 102)

The IIci was the first Mac with “clean” ROMs, allowing 32-bit operation without special software. Along with the Mac Portable, it was the first Mac to use surface mount technology.

If you’re running low on RAM, by all means buy more. You should have at least 8 MB, but more is much better (unless you’re sticking with System 6, in which case you can’t use more than 8 MB).

Quadra 700 motherboards are uncommon. For that level of performance, consider a 68040-based accelerator, such as the Sonnet Presto 040 (40 MHz 68040 with 128 KB L2 cache, see our benchmark page). See a more complete list of accelerators below. Note that you will have to perform surgery on your case with the Quadra 700 motherboard upgrade.

A newer hard drive will be far more responsive and have far more capacity than the one that shipped with the computer. Any 3.5″ half-height or third-height drive will fit.

Discontinued accelerators (68030 unless otherwise noted) include the Applied Engineering TransWarp (50 MHz 68030, 25, 33 MHz 68040), DayStar Universal PowerCache (33, 40, 50 MHz), Fusion Data TokaMac SX (25 MHz 68040), Logica LogiCache (50 MHz), Radius Rocket (25 MHz 68LC040 to 40 MHz 68040), TechWorks NuBus (33 MHz 68040), and Total Systems Magellan (25 MHz 68040).

Moving Files from Your New Mac to Your Vintage Mac, Paul Brierley, The ‘Book Beat, 2006.06.13. Old Macs use floppies; new ones don’t. Old Macs use AppleTalk; Tiger doesn’t support it. New Macs can burn CDs, but old CD drives can’t always read CD-R. So how do you move the files?

Was the Macintosh IIci the Best Mac Ever?, Dan Knight, Mac Musings, 2009.01.19. Introduced in 1989, the Mac IIci was fast, had integrated video, included 3 expansion slots, and could be upgraded in myriad ways.

Know Your Mac’s Upgrade Options, Phil Herlihy, The Usefulness Equation, 2008.08.26. Any Mac can be upgraded, but it’s a question of what can be upgraded – RAM, hard drive, video, CPU – and how far it can be upgraded.

Creating Classic Mac Boot Floppies in OS X, Paul Brierley, The ‘Book Beat, 2008.08.07. Yes, it is possible to create a boot floppy for the Classic Mac OS using an OS X Mac that doesn’t have Classic. Here’s how.

The Compressed Air Keyboard Repair, Charles W Moore, Miscellaneous Ramblings, 2008.07.24. If your keyboard isn’t working as well as it once did, blasting under the keys with compressed air may be the cure.

A Vintage Mac Network Can Be as Useful as a Modern One, Carl Nygren, My Turn, 2008.04.08. Old Macs can exchange data and share an Internet connection very nicely using Apple’s old LocalTalk networking.

Vintage Mac Networking and File Exchange, Adam Rosen, Adam’s Apple, 2007.12.19. How to network vintage Macs with modern Macs and tips on exchanging files using floppies, Zip disks, and other media.

Vintage Mac Video and Monitor Mania, Adam Rosen, Adam’s Apple, 2007.12.17. Vintage Macs and monitors didn’t use VGA connectors. Tips on making modern monitors work with old Macs.

Getting Inside Vintage Macs and Swapping Out Bad Parts, Adam Rosen, Adam’s Apple, 2007.12.14. When an old Mac dies, the best source of parts is usually another dead Mac with different failed parts.

Solving Mac Startup Problems, Adam Rosen, Adam’s Apple, 2007.12.12. When your old Mac won’t boot, the most likely culprits are a dead PRAM battery or a failed (or failing) hard drive.

20 year old Mac IIci dies, Mozilla for Classic Mac OS, USB 3 on Mac this year?, and more, Mac News Review, 2009.07.10. Also picking a Mac over a PC, which Macs can boot from SD?, GrandReporter automates searching the Web, an online image editor, and more.

The 25 most important Macs (part 2), Dan Knight, Mac Musings, 2009.02.17. The 25 most significant Macs in the first 25 years of the platform, continued.

Golden Apples: The 25 best Macs to date, Michelle Klein-Häss, Geek Speak, 2009.01.27. The best Macs from 1984 through 2009, including a couple that aren’t technically Macs.

Why You Should Partition Your Mac’s Hard Drive, Dan Knight, Mac Musings, 2008.12.11. “At the very least, it makes sense to have a second partition with a bootable version of the Mac OS, so if you have problems with your work partition, you can boot from the ’emergency’ partition to run Disk Utility and other diagnostics.”

Better and Safer Surfing with Internet Explorer and the Classic Mac OS, Max Wallgren, Mac Daniel, 2007.11.06. Tips on which browsers work best with different Mac OS versions plus extra software to clean cookies and caches, detect viruses, handle downloads, etc.

Simple Macs for Simple Tasks, Tommy Thomas, Welcome to Macintosh, 2007.10.19. Long live 680×0 Macs and the classic Mac OS. For simple tasks such as writing, they can provide a great, low distraction environment.

Interchangeabilty and Compatibility of Apple 1.4 MB Floppy SuperDrives, Sonic Purity, Mac Daniel, 2007.09.26. Apple used two kinds of high-density floppy drives on Macs, auto-inject and manual inject. Can they be swapped?

Macintosh IIx: Apple’s flagship gains a better CPU, FPU, and floppy drive, Dan Knight, Mac Musings, 2007.09.19. 20 years ago Apple improved the Mac II by using a Motorola 68030 CPU with the new 68882 FPU. And to top it off, the IIx was the first Mac that could read DOS disks with its internal drive.

Vintage Macs provide a less distracting writing environment, Brian Richards, Advantage Mac, 2007.09.18. A Mac OS X user finds an old Macintosh IIsi and discovers the joy of writing undisturbed by music, messaging, and streaming content.

No junk from Apple, Mac mouse dies after 18 years, time to cut the gigabyte BS, and more, Mac News Review, 2007.08.10. Also new iMac and Mac mini models, Apple’s aluminum keyboards, new NAS drive looks like a Mac mini, first software update for aluminum iMacs, and more.

Mac System 7.5.5 Can Do Anything Mac OS 7.6.1 Can, Tyler Sable, Classic Restorations, 2007.06.04. Yes, it is possible to run Internet Explorer 5.1.7 and SoundJam with System 7.5.5. You just need to have all the updates – and make one modification for SoundJam.

Appearance Manager Allows Internet Explorer 5.1.7 to Work with Mac OS 7.6.1, Max Wallgren, Mac Daniel, 2007.05.23. Want a fairly modern browser with an old, fast operating system? Mac OS 7.6.1 plus the Appearance Manager and Internet Explorer may be just what you want.

Format Any Drive for Older Macs with Patched Apple Tools, Tyler Sable, Classic Restorations, 2007.04.25. Apple HD SC Setup and Drive Setup only work with Apple branded hard drives – until you apply the patches linked to this article.

Making floppies and CDs for older Macs using modern Macs, Windows, and Linux PCs, Tyler Sable, Classic Restorations, 2007.03.15. Older Macs use HFS floppies and CDs. Here are the free resources you’ll need to write floppies or CDs for vintage Macs using your modern computer.

System 7 Today, advocates of Apple’s ‘orphan’ Mac OS 7.6.1, Tommy Thomas, Welcome to Macintosh, 2006.10.26. Why Mac OS 7.6.1 is far better for 68040 and PowerPC Macs than System 7.5.x.

The legendary Apple Extended Keyboard, Tommy Thomas, Welcome to Macintosh, 2006.10.13. Introduced in 1987, this extended keyboard was well designed and very solidly built. It remains a favorite of long-time Mac users.

30 days of old school computing: No real hardships, Ted Hodges, Vintage Mac Living, 2006.10.11. These old black-and-white Macs are just fine for messaging, word processing, spreadsheets, scheduling, contact management, and browsing the Web.

Jag’s House, where older Macs still rock, Tommy Thomas, Welcome to Macintosh, 2006.09.25. Over a decade old, Jag’s House is the oldest Mac website supporting classic Macs and remains a great resource for vintage Mac users.

Mac OS 8 and 8.1: Maximum Size, Maximum Convenience, Tyler Sable, Classic Restorations, 2006.09.11. Mac OS 8 and 8.1 add some useful new features and tools, and it can even be practical on 68030-based Macs.

Vintage Macs with System 6 run circles around 3 GHz Windows 2000 PC, Tyler Sable, Classic Restorations, 2006.07.06. Which grows faster, hardware speed or software bloat? These benchmarks show vintage Macs let you be productive much more quickly than modern Windows PCs.

Floppy drive observations: A compleat guide to Mac floppy drives and disk formats, Scott Baret, Online Tech Journal, 2006.06.29. A history of the Mac floppy from the 400K drive in the Mac 128K through the manual-inject 1.4M SuperDrives used in the late 1990s.

System 7.6.1 is perfect for many older Macs, John Martorana, That Old Mac Magic, 2006.03.24. Want the best speed from your old Mac? System 7.6.1 can give you that with a fairly small memory footprint – also helpful on older Macs.

System 7.5 and Mac OS 7.6: The beginning and end of an era, Tyler Sable, Classic Restorations, 2006.02.15. System 7.5 and Mac OS 7.6 introduced many new features and greater modernity while staying within reach of most early Macintosh models.

Turning an LC or other ancient Mac into a webcam with a QuickCam, Tyler Sable, Classic Restorations, 2006.01.25. As long as it has 4 MB of RAM and a hard drive, any 16 MHz or faster Mac that supports color can be configured as a webcam.

System 7: Bigger, better, more expandable, and a bit slower than System 6, Tyler Sable, Classic Restorations, 2006.01.04. The early versions of System 7 provide broader capability for modern tasks than System 6 while still being practical for even the lowliest Macs.

Web browser tips for the classic Mac OS, Nathan Thompson, Embracing Obsolescence, 2006.01.03. Tips on getting the most out of WaMCom, Mozilla, Internet Explorer, iCab, Opera, and WannaBe using the classic Mac OS.

Which system software is best for my vintage Mac?, Tyler Sable, Classic Restorations, 2005.11.22. Which system software works best depends to a great extent on just which Mac you have and how much RAM is installed.

The legendary DayStar Turbo 040 hot rods 68030 Macs, Tyler Sable, Classic Restorations, 2005.11.29. DayStar’s vintage upgrade can make an SE/30 and most models in the Mac II series faster than the ‘wicked fast’ Mac IIfx.

Never connect an Apple II 5.25″ floppy drive to the Mac’s floppy port. Doing so can ruin the floppy controller, meaning you can’t even use the internal drive any longer.

Internal video on the IIci and IIsi, and the Mac II mono and color video cards, will not work with multisync monitors, whether Apple or PC style. Griffin Technology made the Mac 2 Series Adapter, which works with Apple’s Multiple Scan monitors and most Mac compatible monitors. There was also a version for using VGA-type monitors on older Macs.

Serial port normally restricted to 57.6 kbps; throughput with a 56k modem may be limited. See 56k modem page. For more information on Mac serial ports, read Macintosh Serial Throughput in our Online Tech Journal.

Sometime between 2003 and 2006 I found this Apple Macintosh Quadra 700 at the old State Road Goodwill in Cuyahoga Falls.  According to this Macintosh serial decoding site my Quadra (serial # F114628QC82) was the 7012th Mac built in the 14th week of 1991 in Apple’s Fremont, California factory.

After I started this blog I dragged over most of the vintage Mac stuff out of my parents’ attic to my apartment.   I decided that the Quadra 700 should get a semi-permanent place on my vintage computing desk.   The desk (which you’ve probably seen in the Macintosh SE and PowerBook G3 entries) has a credenza that limits how deep of a monitor I can use.   The Multiple Scan 17 doesn’t leave enough space for the keyboard and really restricts what else I can have on the desk.

Originally my plan was to use the Quadra with an HP 1740 LCD monitor I picked up at the Kent-Ravena Goodwill so I bought a DB-15 to HD-15 (VGA) converter.

However, while digging through the Mac stuff in my parents’ attic I made an interesting discovery.  Unbeknownst to me I owned AppleColor High-Resolution RGB 13″ monitor.

When I was still living with my parents there wasn’t really a lot of room in my bedroom for all of the vintage computing stuff I had accumulated.  Often, I would lose interest in something and it would go into the attic.

At some point my Dad must have brought home this monitor from a thrift store.  Unlike most CRT monitors where the monitor cable is attached to the monitor this one has a detachable cable which was lost when he bought it (I have since purchased a replacement on eBay).  With all of the Mac stuff put away and no monitor cable to test it with, it joined everything else in the attic and I forgot about it.

Years later when I stumbled upon it deep in the shadows of a poorly lit part of the room, I thought it was the cheaper Macintosh 12″ RGB monitor that went with the LC series.  But then, I saw the name plate on the back.

This was an amazing stroke of luck because that’s a damn fine monitor.  Back in the late 80s this was one of Apple’s high end Trinitron monitors.  Remember those Apple brochures my mother got in West Akron in 1989 from the Macintosh SE entry?

Apple also sold a rather attractive optional base for the AppleColor RGB monitor with great Snow White detailing, as seen in this drawing from Technical Introduction to the Macintosh Family: Second Edition.

Oddly enough, when I ventured further into my parent’s attic I found a box of Macintosh stuff that a college roommate had recovered from being trashed at a college graphics lab that contained, among other things, the manual for this model of monitor.

The Quadra 700 is one of my all-time favorite thrift store finds.  It was the first extremely serious Macintosh I have owned from the expandable 680X0 era (roughly from 1987 to 1994 when Apple moved to PowerPC CPUs). Previously the most powerful Mac I had found was a Macintosh LC III with a color monitor. That machine introduced me to what the experience of using a color Macintosh had been like in the early 1990s but the Quadra was on another level entirely.

To put this in perspective: Macintosh LC III was a lower-end machine from 1993 that gave you something like the performance of a high-end Macintosh from 1989. The Quadra 700 (along with the Quadra 900 which was basically the same guts in a larger, more expandable case) was Apple’s late 1991 high-end machine. When it was new, the Quadra 700 cost a staggering $5700, without a monitor. The monitor could easily add another $1500.

Apple created a lot of machines in the Macintosh II series and it’s a bit difficult to keep track of them.  As you can see in the brochure, the original machine was the Macintosh II, built around Motorola’s 68020 processor and for the first time in the Macintosh, a fully 32-bit bus.  That machine was succeeded the following year by the Macintosh IIx, which, like all following Macintosh II models used the 68030 processor.  The II and the IIx both had six NuBus expansion slots, which is why their cases are so wide.

If you’re more familiar with the history of Intel processors don’t let the similar numbering schemes lead you into thinking the 68020 was equivalent to a 286 and the 68030 was equivalent to a 386.  In reality the original Macintosh’s 68000 CPU would be more comparable to the 286 while the 68020 and 68030 were comparable to the 386.  In the numbering scheme that Motorola was using at the time processors with even numbered digits in their second to last number like the 68000, 68020 and 68040 were new designs and processors with odd numbers like 68010 and 68030 were enhancements to the previous model.  The 68030 gained a memory mapping unit (MMU) which enabled virtual memory.  The jump from the 286 to the 386 was much greater than the jump from the 68020 to the 68030.

The next machine in the series was the Macintosh IIcx in 1989, which basically took the guts of the IIx and put them in a smaller case with only three expansion slots (hence, it’s a II-compact-x).  Like the II and the IIx, the IIcx had no on-board video and required a video card to be in one of the expansion slots.

The case used in the Macintosh IIcx and IIci was designed to match in color, styling, and size the AppleColor High Resolution RGB monitor I have, as seen in this illustration from Technical Introduction to the Macintosh Family: Second Edition.

As you probably caught onto by now the Quadra 700 uses the same case as the Macintosh IIci but with the Snow White detail lines and the Apple badge turned 90 degrees, turning it into a mini-tower.  That’s why the monitor matches the Quadra so well.

The last Macintosh to use the full-sized six-slot Macintosh II case was the uber-expensive Macintosh IIfx in 1990.  It used a blistering 40MHz 68030 and started at $8970.

However, if you bought a IIfx, you may have felt very silly the next year when the Quadra series based on the new 68040 processor came out and succeeded the Macintosh II series.

According to these benchmarks at Low End Mac, the 25MHz 68040 in the Quadra 700 scores 33% higher than the Macintosh IIfx’s 40MHz 68030 on an integer benchmark and five times as fast on a math benchmark.  Plus, it was just over half the price of the IIfx.

The interior of the Quadra 700 is extremely tidy. The question the hardware designers at Apple were clearly working with was: what is the most efficient case layout if you need to pack a power supply, a hard disk, 3.5″ floppy drive, and 2 full-length expansion slots in a case? In the Quadra 700 the two drives are at the front of the right side of the case, the PSU is at the back of the right side, and the two expansion slots take up the left side of the case.

You can tell how the arrival of CD-ROM drives threw a wrench in all of this serene order.  You’re never going to shoe-horn a 5.25″ optical drive in this case.  And when you do get a CD drive in the case you’re going to have an ugly looking gap for the drive door rather than just the understated slot for the floppy.  I think Apple’s designs lost a lot of their minimalist beauty when they started putting CD drives in Macintoshes soon after the Quadra 700.

Inside the case, the way everything is attached without screws is very impressive.  The sides of the case and the cage that hold the drives forms a channel that the PSU slides into. Assuming nothing is stuck you should be able to pull out the PSU, detach the drive cables, and then pull out the drive cage in a few short minutes without using a screwdriver (actually, there’s supposed to be a screw securing the drive cage to the logic board but it was missing in mine with no ill effects).

We tend to think of plastic in the pejorative.  But, plastic is only cheap and flimsy when it’s badly done.  This Quadra’s case is plastic done really, really well.  It doesn’t flex or bend.  It’s rock solid.  But, when you pick the machine up it’s much lighter than you expect it to be.

Second, notice the six empty RAM slots.  Curiously enough, on the Quadra 700 the shorter memory slots just above the battery are the main RAM.  I believe this machine has four 4MB SIMMs in addition to 4MB RAM soldered onto the logic board (the neat horizontal row of chips labeled DRAM to the left of the SIMMs on the bottom of the picture)   The larger white empty slots are for VRAM expansion.

The way the video hardware talks to the CPU makes it really, really fast compared to previous Macintoshes with built-in video and even expensive video cards for the Macintosh II series.

The Quadra’s video hardware supports a wide variety of common resolutions and refresh rates including VGA’s 640×480 and SVGA’s 800×600.  That’s why I can use the Quadra with that VGA adapter pictured above.  This was neat stuff in an era when Macintoshes tended to be very proprietary.

Apple Computer Inc’s USA Division has cut prices up to 20% on all models of the top-end 25MHz 68030-68882-based Macintosh IIci, the machine most suited to running the company’s A/UX Unix. An optional cache card with 32Kb of 25nS static at $400 boosts performance up to 30%. The reduction is a uniform $1,500 across the board so that the 4Mb floppy model is cut 20% to $6,000; the 80Mb hard disk version falls 18% to $6,700, and the A/UX version is reduced 17% to $7,300.

The Macintosh IIci is a personal computer designed, manufactured, and sold by Apple Computer, Inc. from September 1989 to February 1993. It is a more powerful version of the Macintosh IIcx, released earlier that year, and shares the same compact case design. With three NuBus expansion slots and a Processor Direct Slot, the IIci also improved upon the IIcx"s 16 MHz Motorola 68030 CPU and 68882 FPU, replacing them with 25 MHz versions of these chips.

The Macintosh Quadra 700 was introduced at the end of 1991 as Apple"s mainstream workstation product to replace the IIci, albeit at a significantly higher price point: by this time, Apple authorized resellers were offering entry-level IIci systems for US$4,000 or less, whereas the Quadra 700 entered the market above US$6,000. Because of this, Apple continued to sell the IIci until early 1993 when the less expensive Quadra 650 and comparably-priced Quadra 800 were introduced.

The IIci introduced several technical and architectural enhancements, some of which were important in preparing for System 7 (which was then called the Blue project) and would influence future Macintoshes, though some of them came at the cost of compatibility:

a new, 32-bit clean ROM with built-in 32-bit QuickDraw that consists of two parts: one part that is the same across all Macintoshes, and another area (called the overpatch area) that is specific to each Macintosh.

a first for a modular Macintosh — onboard graphics for an external display. This freed one of the system"s three NuBus slots. However, because the integrated graphics used the system"s RAM for its frame buffer, some users used a NuBus graphics card to reclaim the lost memory. Also, it was popular to install faster memory in the first bank of SIMM slots, as this is the bank used by the video subsystem. The onboard graphics supported up to 8-bit color at resolutions of either 640x480 or 512x384.

The IIci was one of the most popular and longest-lived Macintosh models of the 20th century. For much of its lifespan, it was the business "workhorse" of the Macintosh line.Macintosh IIfx, the IIci was the fastest Mac available.

An easter egg exists in the IIci ROM. If the system date is set to September 20, 1989 (the machine"s release date) and the ⌘ Command+⌥ Option+C+I keys are held during boot time, an image of the development team will be displayed.

Pogue, David; Schorr, Joseph (1999). "Chapter 12: From 128K to Quadra: Mac to Mac". MacWorld Mac Secrets, 5th Edition. IDG Books. pp. 469–470. ISBN 0-7645-4040-8.

I have had Macs for over 30 years and never experienced these kinds of issues and have used laptops with external monitors (except for some random issues while running beta system software). I have to believe there is something about your software environment that is different. I hope you find the issue, but I can tell you from a large office full of Macs and my own personal experience that your situation is not typical. Good luck.

I have also used this laptop with lots of generic HDMI displays plugged in directly to the HDMI port. No issues. I have had mixed success with no name USB-C to HDMI adaptors. Some of those have problems. I throw those away or send them back.

On the Mac Studio, I run 4 x TB3 cables into the back. Occasionally (once a week?) the four monitors sometimes seem to wake out of order. I tap touch ID twice to off-and-on-again them, second time’s a charm.

Other than that, I habitually unplug the monitor before putting the laptop away in the evening because the built-in charger makes the fans spin up on my macbook pro.

All the monitors work fine with all the Macbooks. To my surprise, even the Adaptive Sync with 144Hz works on the Eve Spectrum monitor. Even the scaling at 4k is fine: 4k scaled to 2560x1440, which is okay at 27". The laptops are connected either via Thunderbolt 4/USB-C cables (OWC 2m cable and the cables came with the monitors) or a OWC Thunderbolt 4 dock (and USB-C or Thunderbolt from there). The exception is the 24" monitor, which is connected via DP whenever I need it.

Like others here, I found that Thunderbolt 4/USB-C works best. My setup had similar issues with waking up and connecting the monitors when I used a mixture of HDMI and DP. Since switching, no more issues. The switch was expensive though :(

The work-issued Lenovo P15s Gen2, on the other hand, has all kinds of issues with this same setup: scaling in Windows 10 is crap and blurry depending on the application, monitors blank out every once in a while, going from 60Hz to 144Hz is a flickering nightmare, sleep and waking up just don"t work, ...

Currently using: 2 Gigabyte M28Us (scaled to 1440p) and 1 Dell S2716DGR, all running at 144hz on various different Macs. One of the M28us is passing through the mouse, keyboard, and webcam.

I did have a bunch of issues with the M1 Pro MacBook. I used it exclusively in clamshell mode and 90% of the time it failed to wake up and detect the monitors in general. To get it working, I had to continuously unplug and plug the cables back in. Sometimes this worked on the first try, other times it took 10 minutes of messing with the cables. I upgraded to using certified Thunderbolt 4 cables on the M28Us but that didn"t fix the problem.

Currently I"m running a baseline Mac Studio. The biggest issue I have is that the display order changes most of the time when I wake the computer. Every now and then it seems to not pick up one of my displays and I have to unplug it and plug it back in. It"s a little bit annoying but definitely not as frustrating at the M1 Pro MacBook.

In starting t belove there"s just some collective failures with modern laptop power design. Multiple laptops from different manufacturers have had similar power issues waking up from sleep states and many even went on to just straight up die, as nothing seemed to power up anymore.

The solution is (unfortunately) to spend money on the lg ultrafine 5k or studio display. These have a higher PPI compared to every other monitor on the market. I run my lg ultrafine at native scaling. No more headaches and my productivity using macos 10x"d.

Dunno what you’re doing. I assume you’ve checked obvious things like connecting it with a guest account. And maybe trying the computer on other displays outside your home?

I"ve also tried the Mini"s HDMI port with all kinds of very weird screens and capture cards, including an old WaveShare 7" 1024x600 that doesn"t even send an EDID - that kinda worked too.

Most of the cheaper docks AND adapters are utter crap, though. That makes the entire ecosystem hard to negotiate, for a lot of users. It"s unclear to me how Apple can help with that, though.

At one point I had one 5K and two 4K displays plugged into a single machine, but now I just have 5120x2160 (or thereabouts) at 75Hz (it’s a 2018 LG monitor). And I share the same monitor with a couple of PC laptops as well (which struggle to match the Macs), so there’s plenty of switching going round.

If not in clam shell, press any key on keyboard and WAIT for the external to wake before login. I have noticed that entering keystrokes like password on the login screen somehow disrupts the Macs process to detect the external from sleep.

If undocking while in clamshell, open mac lid first and ensure it"s displaying, then disconnect the usb hub. If I don"t do this, sometimes the on-board monitor will stay black because it still thinks the external monitor is connected. When in this condition, it takes forever for the macbook to figure out the external is no longer connected. Holding the power button and restarting fixes it.

One workaround that I had explored to fix the external monitor wake issues was to find a terminal command that would unload/load the usb drivers to "reset" the usb ports. From there, I could write it into a script with a hotkey and run it every time the monitor fails to display. I used to run a script to fix my ethernet connected via usb-c that would not be detected on boot for my Linux laptop. The script basically unloaded and loaded the usb drivers, which fixed it every time. Unfortunately, unloading usb drivers on the mac is not easy.

The P2715Q needs to be power cycled from the wall outlet now and then. If your Mac detects it and sends it signal, but the screen remains black, this is probably the case. I"ve seen this with several Macs over the years, so I"m comfortable saying it"s an issue with the display.

Coworkers have recently observed their U2720Qs occasionally failing to be detected by their 2021 MacBook Pros if they use the same USB-C port to connect to it after sleeping through the night. A reboot of the Mac has clears the issue, and I haven"t seen it happen with other models I plug in the same way, so it"s likely not the display"s fault.

Otherwise, I have to say this setup has been quite reliable across several Mac laptops of different architectures, price points, and pixel densities; lid open or lid closed.

2) Audio L/R balance on the USB audio adapter gets set wonky periodically, it"s apparently a common issue with external audio to the point that there is a utility called "Balance Lock" to kludge past it.

But it appears that the only ones actually available are an LG (who make the panel for the 27" iMacs) and the new Apple Studio Display. The LG model is something like 5 years old and costs around $1300, which is almost as much as the Studio Display ($1600).

If I don"t my "Mac Book Pro 16" - M1 Pro" will do very strange things, like a strange mirrored 1024x768 4:3 mirrored mode until I unplug the usb-c to DP cable and cycle the power on the monitor. I have also found I need to leave the monitor off for a good 30 seconds (capacitor discharge?) to get a connection again.

I do still get the occasional strange issue with the M1 and OWC Thunderbolt 4 Hub, such as sometimes one display will not wake, or sit at 30hz until I reconnect it, but for the most part it is an enjoyable configuration.

I suspect that there is a compatibility issue with the M1 and the Dell S2721Q/QS monitors when connected via DisplayPort which contributed to my woes.

From what I tried so far, the LG 27” 4K line has worked the best for me, with no video signal issues, no sleep/wake problems, good DPI scaling and smooth brightness control through DDC.

That might not be sufficiently pro-level enough for some, but I"m able to game on the main 4k display fine (although I don"t tend to play bleeding edge games). I haven"t needed to upgraded the other monitors to 4k and mostly use them to park chat apps and music streaming and other stuff. If you need wrap-around 4k monitors for your 3+ screen Eve Online gaming or whatever it is these days then it might not work for you. I don"t push that DisplayLink adapter terribly hard.

For 20+y, I"ve never had external monitors reliably stay where I tell them with Windows (every version of Windows I"ve had issues with: 2k, XP, 2k3, 7, 2k8, 2k12, 10 (didn"t own/use ME, Vista, or 8/8.1)

Yet when I connect external monitors to my Macs, they always stay in the place and orientation I tell them (I do travel (until just before covid (haven"t been onsite since Aug "19)) consulting, and would routinely use customer external monitor setups with my MacBooks ... eg - while connecting to a rotatable monitor with one MBP, it would always remember that monitor in portrait mode, while I could connect to another monitor in landscape, and it"d remember that monitor that way)

Compare that to the customer-issued laptop with customer-issued dock and monitor ... and it would forget the external monitor AND the location AND orientation every Dang WEEK I was onsite!??!!!

My wife has a 16" MacBook pro 2019 with a pathetic 16GB of ram. When she connects a 4k 30hz Sony x800h tv to her MacBook (via HDMI dongle) it heats up terrifically and throttles down to about 1/10th speed and the mouse jumps across the screen and button pushes can take minutes. Her solution?

I am able to use my 8-core 32gb 2019 MacBook pro with a 4k tcl s405 4ktv & HDMI dongle but it takes about 5 minutes each day to get it to sync to the dongle that never gave me problems with a 2018 MacBook pro. I had to change my calendar reminders to add minutes to the alarm first thing in the morning it"s SO FLAKEY! Seriously.

I’ve found that if I use it with a USB extension cable it works, but my wireless mouse stops working reliably - even on other computers. I think the extension cable throws off interference in the 2.4Ghz range. Apart from that, no issues.

I don"t know for sure (or why) it would be the port, just offering a data point. I"m currently on a 1080p Dell monitor but I"ve had the same experience with 4k LG monitors and with at least one other monitor whose brand I can"t remember (and even with a couple of TVs, and at least one projector)

The issue seems also software related because if you would try the same screen or dongle with another MacBook it works fine, but it keeps failing on the malfunctioning MacBook. It is infuriating because the interface provides zero feedback.

The most annoying bug for me is when you "unplug in the wrong order" and the MacBook screen does not wake up when not plugged to an external monitor. You have to go back to your monitor and replug it and then "unplug in the correct order".

I also have my personal 2015 MacBookPro, and I don"t really connect that to external monitors these days. If I wanted to, I"d use thunderbolt 2 (mini display port) to display port cables.

Apple laptops do have some problems waking up properly with external monitors. It’s not the cable or the monitor but the computer not handling the situation properly.

It"s possible that Apple has fixed the bug/feature that originally trained me to perform this ritual, but I haven"t had any problems since. Sleep/wake cycle works fine with both external monitors powering down and up as expected.

My two monitors are Dell QHD, which have proven very reliable. I am using them with a MacBook Pro M1 14”. They are connected with USB-C to DP cables to a Thunderbolt 4 docking station (also from Accell).

With the Samsung, a restart requires me to reset the underscan. Interestingly, the slider is in the correct spot when I open monitor settings, but I have to drag it a tiny bit to get it to kick in.

I am a heavy user of Spaces and for the life of me, I haven"t found a way to regain access to Spaces that I"ve moved to an external display once I disconnect it from my macbook.

2 different MacBooks (an intel pro and m1 pro). Each connected to an Anker dock. The docks are connected via HDMI to an HDMI/USB KVM switch from CKL, then I have a 20ft HDMI cable and USB cable to run across the room to my desk.

The original Macintosh design is timeless, but by the end of the 1980s, Apple decided it was time to break the Mac out of its cute beige all-in-one enclosure and expand into a series of “snow white” cases with separate CRTs. The Macintosh II was bold for a Mac but conventional for its time.

In 1987, the original Macintosh II delivered fast processing power, color graphics, and expandability in a big-box format. A few years later, Apple provided similar features in the smaller footprint IIcx, IIci, and then the IIsi. The IIsi is perhaps most notable for being intentionally hobbled. Slowed down with limited expansion, the IIsi was a modest utility player that filled a gap in Apple’s lineup.

I spent countless hours supporting hundreds of Macintosh systems during the ‘90s. My personal Macintosh II nostalgia rests with the IIci, not its lower-powered younger brother, but while keeping an eye out for an affordable IIci, I decided to hone my restoration skills on the easier to acquire IIsi.

With its 16MHz 68020 processor, the full-size Macintosh II was Apple’s first Mac powered by something other than the dependable 68000. However, the original Mac II and LC were the only systems with a 68020. Apple soon moved to Motorola’s impressive 68030. While the IIx, SE/30, and IIcx ran at 16MHz, the IIci made the jump to 25MHz, and the IIfx broke records at an incredible 40MHz. In October 1990, Apple retired the IIx, and soon the IIcx, and the IIsi became the new low-priced Macintosh II solution.

In its unique case (though reminiscent of the Apple IIGS), the IIsi has a 20MHz processor, no L2 cache, and one processor-direct slot (PDS). The 32-bit system came with 1MB of RAM on its logic board but supported up to 64MB more through four 100 nanosecond 30-pin SIMMs. The system’s integrated graphics can generate 256 colors at a maximum resolution of 640×480. With a starting price of $3,770, the IIsi was a middle-market solution between the entry-level Macintosh Classic, low-cost LC, and the expensive SE/30, IIci, and IIfx.

I acquired a Macintosh IIsi through Facebook Marketplace. A retiring couple needed to downsize, and I was the happy recipient of the early ‘90s Apple equipment stored in their garage. After getting the collection back to my shop, I opened each case to take inventory. I was eager to inspect the IIsi because it had a DayStar Digital sticker on the front of the case—indicating a DayStar accelerator card could be inside. Unfortunately, I got an eyeful when I lifted the case’s cover.

The battery has failed catastrophically. A photo of this disaster is now my most viewed poston Twitter. Knowing it was a lost cause, I tried to clean the board—as much out of curiosity as an attempt to salvage parts. After soaking the board in isopropyl alcohol and WD-40, I was able to scrape off most of the crystalized gunk, but the oozing material had eaten away several chip pins and traces. Aside from the battery disaster, the IIsi did indeed include a DayStar PowerPC 601 accelerator on a PDS to Nubus expansion card. It also came with an 80MB Quantum ProDrive LPS hard drive and 17MB of RAM—with 1MB soldered on the board and four Samsung 4MB SIMM modules.

A few weeks later, I noticed another post on Facebook Marketplace with someone offering a pair of IIsi. I decided to contact the seller to see if I could purchase one for its logic board. After delays in shipping the computer, the seller graciously sent me both. The Texas-based seller reported he acquired both Macs from the legendary Computer Reset in Dallas. He also shipped them inside a box for an AppleColor RGB High-Resolution Monitor—also obtained from Computer Reset. It’s just luck that I already have that display in my collection and can now pair it with a factory box.

I opened both Sony PSUs and found a mess. The cluster of large brown capacitors opposite the electrical plug had leaked, along with the surface mount caps on the unusual vertical daughterboard. I cleaned both Sony units and purchased replacement capacitors. The Magnetek unit is riveted shut, but seems to work properly. After the capacitors were replaced, both Sony PSUs provided steady voltages, but one would not turn off except through software or pulling the plug. I suspect a rotten resistor is to blame, but that repair will have to wait until I order a replacement component.

After completing my repairs, I tentatively plugged each IIsi board into a PSU and monitor. I also connected my external SCSI2SD unit running System 6.0.8 for testing. One of the boards fired up and operated normally; the other was dead. After checking traces and each capacitor’s continuity, I decided to push forward with the one working properly and pair the dead logic board with the PSU that won’t shut down and address them later.

The floppy drives needed attention. I was able to clean them thoroughly, but an eject gear was faulty in one. After servicing and replacing the broken gear, one of the drives still did not read disks, but the other works as expected. So, the working drive was added to the functional IIsi, and the other went with the troubled unit.

I decided to acquire an Apple Macintosh Color Display for the working IIsi. Released in October 1992, this Sony Trinitron CRT can display up to 640 x 480 resolution and 16.7 million colors. My eBay find arrived safely, though it had obviously taken damage in the past. I noticed that one corner was chipped in the eBay listing, but I decided to take a chance. When it arrived, I heard something rattling inside, but I powered it on anyway since the seller reported it working. After hearing a few uncomfortable snapping sounds, an image appeared on the screen.

With the knowledge I wasn’t wasting my time, I opened up the monitor and found a few pieces of plastic and several copper clips lying near the bottom of the CRT. I soon determined the clips had broken off from the top and bottom degaussing panels’ metal chassis. I was uncertain of their function, but I decided to solder the clips to their original screw-hole bases.

Once reassembled, I retested the monitor, and I still heard snapping sounds—though not as loudly as before. I was suspicious of the copper clips, and after seeking help on Twitter, I learned the clips likely provide a ground path for the aquadag painted on the back of the CRT. Most CRTs have a springy bare cable that stretches from one corner of the CRT to an opposite side, but Sony did not adopt that conventional approach for this display. While I had reattached three out of four clips (one was lost), I could not ensure they were touching the back of the CRT. So, the snapping sounds were electrical arcs spanning the air gap in between. Given how I soldered them back together, I could not bend them into position, so instead, I installed 12 gauge stranded wire to each of the mounting points. I then spread out the ends of each wire to ensure they made contact with the aquadag.

Now, I have one fully-functional Macintosh IIsi with 17MB of RAM, a working floppy drive, and a SCSI2SD hard drive running System 7.0.1. As usual, I am indebted to savagetaylor.com for detailed instructions on installing Macintosh operating systems on the SCSI2SD.

In addition to my working computer, I also have one troubled system with a dead logic board, glitchy power supply, and a non-reading floppy drive. Of course, I also have a spare case and riveted PSU thanks to the original battery-damaged unit. I have yet to test the DayStar accelerator because it needs a later version of System 7, and I need to locate the necessary drivers and documentation. I think I’ll tackle that project when I restore the renowned Macintosh IIci.

This Macintosh IIsi has reawakened my familiarity with System 7 and the fleet of “snow white” designed cases Apple rolled out in the 1990s. While the IIsi is not the best of the bunch, it was an entry point for those wanting a color Mac capable of keeping up with System 7 software in that nostalgic pre-internet era.

Hardy Menagh has compiled an up-to-date list of replacement analogue board parts for the Plus and earlier, based on Larry Pina"s parts list in Mac Repair and Upgrade Secrets, and I have transcribed it into HTML format for easy consumption. If you have a Plus or earlier with analogue board problems, and you know what needs to be replaced, check the parts list for a source.

The Apple Macintosh 12-inch RGB Display was introduced with the Mac LC in October 1989. It uses a 13-inch Sony Trinitron CRT, which is curved horizontally but flat vertically. The monitor can sit on top of most desktop Macs. Apple recommended against using this monitor at maximum brightness and suggested using a screen saver to avoid phosphor burn caused by static elements on the screen, such as the Menu bar, Drive icon, and Trash.

This monitor is compatible with a limited number of Macs and video cards (see below). The case was used for both the 12-inch RGB display and the 12-inch monochrome display.

Screen resolution: 512 x 384 fixed lines; 64 dpi. Displays up to 256 colors with Macintosh Display Card 4*8 and 16.7 million colors with Macintosh Display Card 8*24.

Connect the end of the display’s video cable to the appropriate video socket on the computer. If your computer has a built-in video port, plug the cable into the video port, which is the horizontal socket on the computer’s back panel that’s marked with the video icon. If you have installed a video card, plug the cable into the vertical connector on the video card.

To adjust brightness and contrast: The brightness and contrast controls allow you to adjust your display to suit your preferences and environment. These controls work just like the brightness and contrast controls on a television. To adjust the brightness or contrast, you need to have an image on the screen. First make sure the display and computer are on (it doesn’t matter which you turn on first). Then start up an application program. (See the manuals that come with your computer if you don’t know how to start a program.)

The Macintosh 12-inch RGB Display is designed for use with any Macintosh computer that has a built-in video port, or any Macintosh with the appropriate video card installed.

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Since the passing of Apple"s founder, Steve Jobs, in 2011, vintage Macintosh computers are finally seeing a resurgence in popularity. For those of you who decided to keep your old Macs, this is good news for you! Now these charming old machines are fetching a decent penny on eBay and Craigslist.

These often surface on eBay. These are either the "Replica 1" from Briel Computer or the Newton NTI clone. The value for an unassembled replica hovers around $1,000 for the kit.Regarding Apple/Macintosh "Clones"

During the brief and unsuccessful Apple cloning years, a number of machines emerged using licensed hardware and software. Most were inferior in both performance and quality. Today, their value is difficult to ascertain, as no two clones were truly identical. Many are considered undesirable and sell for just a few hundred dollars, if that.

Aimed as a business computer, the Apple III came with a then industry-standard typewriter keyboard layout. While a stable version was eventually released, the Apple III Plus, its already tainted reputation and the release of IBM"s DOS PC ultimately killed the Apple III.

Named after Steve Jobs" daughter, Lisa, this was one of the final models released before the introduction of Macintosh in 1984. Aimed at corporations, the computer"s hefty price tag of $10,000 in 1984 was considered too great a risk to take, and sales were poor. In 1986, the Lisa was renamed the Macintosh XL and fitted with an emulator to run Mac OS.

Released in January 1984 as the very first Macintosh, the 128k was the first personal computer to feature a Graphic User Interface, a basic feature that would define home computing for decades to come. The 128k was also the first to feature a 3.5" floppy disk drive.

Adding to its collector"s value is the travel case that came with every 128k. Complete, non-upgraded systems, with original packaging, manuals, software disks, and travel case, will easily fetch $2,000+ on eBay.

Apple"s first expandable Macintosh, the Plus, introduced the SCSI port to allow for a multitude of external additions. It was sold to academia as the Mac ED.

Released alongside the Mac II, expansion was the primary capability of the SE series. Its new, updated case came with an expansion slot for either a second internal floppy or hard drive.

Built to replace the SE/30, the Classic II was the last of the Black & White Compact Macs. Whopping fast at 16 MHz with an 80 Mb hard drive and 10 Mb of RAM. It was also the last model to include an external drive port.

Apple"s bottom-rung inaugural Powerbook, released in 1991, would become the foundation of all Macbooks over the next 20 years. This particular model lacked CPU, RAM, and expansions that its two running mates had including a floppy drive. It has since been named the 10th greatest personal computer of all time.

A multi-colored edition Powerbook 170, the JLPGA was built as a commemorative for the 1992 JLPGA Golf Tournament in Japan. Underneath the flashy facade were the workings of a basic Powerbook 170. It was never intended to be a powerful machine but what makes it valuable is that only 500 were ever produced.

Apple"s first color compact Macintosh, the Color Classic ultimately set the stage for the iMac. Essentially a Performa platform computer inside a retro Mac body, even today the Classic has a cult following not seen since the original Macintosh. Some Color Classics have been modified to include an ethernet card that can still connect to broadband networks.

Released as a limited edition in 1993, the Macintosh TV was one of the few desktops ever released in black and Apple"s first attempt at computer-television integration. Equipped with a cable TV ready tuner card and a television monitor, the TV could switch from a computer to a television set in a matter of seconds and even came with a remote control. Yet it was incapable of recording live video, only still frames. Its poor processor speed and other limitations made the unit a failure and ultimately only 10,000 were sold.

Released in 1993, the 840av stood apart from the rest of the 800 series because it included RCA composite video/audio ports and an S-Video port. The 840av was also the first to come with an internal CD drive, stereo output, and video recording capabilities.

Before the Mac Mini, there was the G4 Cube, Apple"s first attempt to build a small profile desktop computer. Unfortunately, it was a flop. Its limited capabilities and uncomfortably high price tag forced the Cube into the grave after just one year. The model was unofficially replaced by the Mac Mini. Despite its failure, the Cube did gain a cult following similar to that of "80s Macs.

Nearly bankrupt, Apple"s official turnaround with the return of co-founder Steve Jobs in 1997. One of the first things he did was kill off nearly all of Apple"s unremarkable product lines. The next thing he did was begin a full rebranding of the company from a boring industrial computer developer into a pop culture staple. The first product under this new rebrand was The iMac.

The iMac was unlike any computer of the time. First, it returned to the original Macintosh design of being All-In-One. This allowed it to be priced considerably cheaper than the competition. Furthermore, the iMac was colorful and eye catching. The inaugural color was called Bondi Blue and soon 13 color combinations were available making it marketable to just about anyone. The computer was the first to feature USB slots, a connector that is still used today. The computer was a smashing success and officially turned Apple around financially.

Despite it"s pop culture status, the 1st generation iMac"s value dropped like a stone as Apple began its business strategy of releasing a new generation of the iMac every year. In fact, by the time the mid 2000s rolled around, and the release of Apple"s revolutionary OS X, you couldn"t even give the 1st iMacs away.

Nicknamed the Lamp, the Sunflower, or the Dome & Swivel, the iMac G4 was the first major redesign of the iMac. Produced from 2002 to 2004, the Lamp was the first Macintosh to ditch the CRD monitor in favor of the flatscreen. This allowed the computer to fit just about anywhere. The computer was also Apple"s OS 9 - OS X transitional model, featuring both operating systems initially. The computer was Apple"s first to pass the 1Ghz CPU speed mark.

In 2007, Apple released the original iPhone and changed the way we looked at cell phones. The 1st generation iPhone, now obsolete, can fetch a staggering amount on eBay, depending on condition. Factory-sealed units with original gift bags and receipts can sell for tens of thousands of dollars.

2010, yet another milestone year for Apple with the release of the iPad. Against all predictions of certain failure, the iPad"s success ushered in the beginning of the tablet era of computing. The 1st generation iPad established screen sizing and control placement that would make up every generation since. Factory sealed units with early serials numbers can fetch a decent amount if the timing is right.

The Apple watch was one of the first major product launches since the passing of Steve Jobs. The first generation watch, retroactively dubbed the "Series 0", established fundamental features such as call answering, music control, and the heart rate sensor that have carried over ever since. Unique to the Apple Watch, the bid value can be effect by the watchband. Aftermarket watchbands that are jewelry grade say made from precious metals and/or studded with real gemstones, may boost the price considerably. Watchbands that are cheap OEM materials can outright tank the value. Watches that are missing their watchband all together fetch considerably less.

Not every vintage computer is a jackpot. Some models happen to sell better than others. A Mac 128k, for example, can fetch well over $2,000 on eBay, while its newer cousin, the 512k, will fetch only $500. Sentimental value is not the same as resale value. Dozens of listings go unsold because of a ridiculous price of, say, $10,000 for an old, unremarkable machine that has no accessories or desirables.

There are several factors to take into account when listing your vintage Mac:First is condition: Does it work? Naturally, a working computer will sell for more than a broken one.

Secondly, what you include with it will also help determine its value. A listing that includes a keyboard, mouse, original install disks, and software will attract a better price than a listing for a computer body by itself.

Some computer models are actually worth more in parts. A Mac SE/30 may only fetch $100 as a complete unit but could fetch nearly $400 in parts. Certain parts are highly prized (like the internal floppy drive, the ram, etc.).

Upgrade kits are very valuable today. Different economics applied to computers in those days. The thought of buying a new computer every two years was unheard of, so the idea was that you bought it, made repairs as needed, and kept it until it completely wore out. Macs were originally designed to be upgraded rather than replaced. By the late "80s, it became apparent that hardware limitations impeded upgrades and by the early "90s, Apple abolished upgrading altogether.

Research what your computer has, and it will help determine whether it is worth more as a complete unit or as a parts box. The prices contained on this page are based on successful eBay listings, not unsold listings. In other words, anyone can ask for $10,000 for a Mac Plus, but nobody"s going to pay that much for it.

The type of auction you choose greatly improves or reduces your chances for a successful sale. When setting up your listing, use the following:Auction-Style listings for vintage computers have a 95% success rate. A Buy-It-Now, even with a low price, will actually hurt your chances of maximizing profit.

Remember, not every Macintosh is a jackpot. Many unremarkable models exist today worth just a few hundred dollars or less, for a multitude of reasons:The model was neither revolutionary in concept or function or just simply a filler model to build out the Apple product line. These were particularly common in the years leading up to Steve Jobs" return in 1997.

Not enough time has passed for it to be considered a worthwhile collector"s item. With the exception of the iPhone 1 and a few others, most collectible machines are at least 20 years or older.

Apple II plus 48K 570019 never used. In original box with original packaging and books. No drive or monitor. Extra what I believe are memory cards never used. Original invoice $695.00

I have an Apple laptop Macintosh PowerBook 160 in great condition with the owners manual, dial up modem, system discs carrying shoulder bag everything.

I have the 128k with all the packaging accessories etc, and the 512k with all of the packaging/boxes, carrying case, even the styrofoam that came with each, everything but the receipts pretty much. Should I sell them individually? I listed them together, have lowered price several times, and even offered free shipping. This is my first, or second post on here so I’m not too sure of the etiquette & what not, but you seem very much versed in Apple products, so could you be so kind as to pass me on some knowledge, on how to go about selling them, or which site you’d recommend.. thanks

I have a 128k, and a 512k both with original carry case and boxes for every single part (i.e keyboard/mouse etc).. I bought them working from a nasa engineer a few months back, and have had them listed both on eBay under 1 listing, is that hurting my potential sale or is it the fact I only have 100 some odd reviews? I have them both together listed for 1600, and one recently sold for 1700 that isn’t near as complete or in good condition like mine, I even have an early model, without the 128k, and serial # starting with F.. any advice?

Have an Apple Macintosh Power PC 8100/80AV with serial # dated 9/20/94. I am willing to donate it if someone would want it. What do you think ? ? ? In very good condition and in working order.

I have an Apple Macintosh 512K M0001W Serial Number: F5415AUM0001W with external floppy drive, all original software and manuals, and working Apple ImageWriter II printer.

Condition: Overall excellent, like-new condition. Computer, mouse, external floppy drive, and printer all work well. Has none of the characteristic yellowing of the cases for the computer, mouse, keyboard, or printer seen with most Macs that are 35+ years old. Also have original boxes, though the one for the Mac is a little ragged, the one for ImageWriter II is in excellent shape.

I have an eMac computer and an Apple Macintosh computer bag which is in good condition. I am wondering what they are worth and how to sell them. The computer is too big to fit in this computer bag. I am not sure if the computer is working at this stage. They belonged to my partner who died recently. He loved all things Apple.

I have an eMac (all white) in essentially mint condition. It still works but does not have original packaging, keyboard or mouse. Any ideas on the value? I have seen them on eBay for $100-$300 but due to weight I wonder if shipping from Vancouver Island in Canada would be prohibitive. Any comments?

Have an IMac DV 400 MHZ SPECIAL ADDITION STILL in original box. Good condition on box. Not perfect on box.